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New Post 1/24/2008 6:45 AM
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I'm determined to not let cost stop me from hiking the Trail, but truth be told I am on a pretty limited budget - and I'm sure there are, or will be, other American college students for whom the financial burden of gear, food, and transportation will be an issue.  So, my question is this:  approximately how much does hiking the trail cost?  I already have a lot of the gear that I'll need, and am fortunately already in the country, so I'm specifically wondering how much I'll have to spend on food and other expenses while on the hike, assuming a relatively slow pace.  I know it's impossible to know for sure, but any estimates from more experienced hikers would really help me out!

 
New Post 1/24/2008 10:44 AM
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Re: Cost 

Hey, I'm glad you're posting on here, man. I think you're a pretty good example of the college-student demographic that will be really interested in the INT once they find out that it even exists.

Once you're in-country and have your gear, hiking the trail is really cheap. Since you're walking everywhere, you won't have any transportation costs unless you decide to take a bus someplace. So the biggest expenses relate to where you choose to stay and how you choose to eat.

If you sleep outside every night, or stay with friends, then your lodging costs are zero. On the other hand, if you stay in a hostel every chance you get, you'll spend a lot of money.

Same goes for food -- it's possible to hike the whole trail eating only food that you buy from small stores in kibbutzim, etc. If you stick to that, then you won't be spending much more on food than you do normally. However, on the trail, you might be burning twice as many calories as you normally do. So if you don't want to lose too much weight, you'll eat a lot more, and if you're like me, you'll be tempted to eat at restaurants when you get the chance. When we stopped in Nazareth on our hike, we ate at the Tishreen restaurant and spent something like 300 shekels on dinner for three people. That was ridiculous, but it was one of the best meals I've ever eaten.

In short, once you're in Israel and have the necessary equipment, you can hike the trail for very little money. It's hard to give specific estimates -- maybe other hikers here can give some good methods of figuring out costs.

 

 
New Post 1/25/2008 11:10 AM
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It's not gonna be extremely cheap.

Here are some #s: If you camp out it's naturally free. In some places in the desert you can stay for 40-60 Shekels/night ($11-16). In other parts of the country (north and center) up to $25/night in cheap hostels. Nazareth ~$14-15. Food: If you plan on buying in small food store or supermarkets I'd say $15/day is reasonable. You will eat in a restaurant probably once a week... so make your average daily food expenses $17-18/day including restaurants. Transportation within the country: Train is more expensive than bus. Tel Aviv to Beer Sheva by train is NIS 24 one way. Bus NIS 13-14.

Today's exchange rate is NIS 3.7 / US $.

(BTW: Kibbutzim don't sell food unless you are a kibbutz memeber...)

 
New Post 1/30/2008 5:21 AM
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 Yankale wrote

(BTW: Kibbutzim don't sell food unless you are a kibbutz memeber...)

Hmm, I've bought food from lots of Kibbutz's on the Shvil. You just have to make sure that you get there after it opens/before it closes.

 
New Post 1/30/2008 4:15 PM
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I assume you were buying food mainly from Moshavim not Kibbutzim. There is a difference between the two.

In a Moshav everything is privately owned food stores too. So no problem buying food in a Moshav.

In a Kibbutz they usually don't have a food store that sells food to guests. The following places along the INT are kibbutzim near the trail:

Dan, Hagoshrim, Kefar Giladi, Iftah, Baram, Sasa, Hasolelim, Yagur, Sdot Yam, Zuba, Beit Gubrin, Devira, Lahav. I assume I've missed a few.

All others are moshavim or other communities.

There are however kibbutzim who have decided to stop being a traditional kibbutz and they live like in a moshav now.

 
New Post 1/30/2008 4:15 PM
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New Post 1/31/2008 10:31 AM
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I was wondering about that. We bought food at Deganya Bet with no problems, but perhaps that's no longer a traditional kibbutz.

 
New Post 1/31/2008 10:38 AM
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I forgot -- we were also able to buy food at Kfar Giladi, but at Dvira, the guard was very nice, but he only allowed us through the gate to fill our water bottles, and then we left. I'm sure it depends on the nature of each kibbutz.

 
New Post 1/31/2008 11:11 AM
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What's the availability of other general supplies?  For instance, what if a boulder falls on my foot and break a shoelace... or what if I fall off a cliff and rip a huge hole in the seat of my pants?  Are there reasonable options (kibbutzim, small villages) for replacing some basics that wouldn't require catching a bus back to a bigger town and losing a day?

 
New Post 2/2/2008 1:40 AM
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Yankale, You may be right about most kibbutzes, I've only been to a half-dozen on the trail. But I know some that are called "Kibbutz" on the map would sell us food (Maps don't always distinquish between traditional Kibbutzes and Moshav-style kibbutzes) but at least Tzuba, which is about as traditional Kibbutz as they come, sells to people on the trails.

 
New Post 2/3/2008 2:04 AM
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Some kibbutzim Kefar Gileadi, Tzuba and Deganiya B have tourist services including hotels, b&b and food stores. I was refering to traditional kibbutzim which are disappearing.... Correct the map won't tell you if it's kibbutz or moshav and it really doen't matter as long as they have a food store.

I guess the $15/day depends on what you buy. The $5/day (=18 NIS) looks to me very ??? . I'd say $10/day is reasonable. 

 
New Post 2/3/2008 2:22 AM
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Re: Cost 

 Seth wrote

What's the availability of other general supplies?  For instance, what if a boulder falls on my foot and break a shoelace... or what if I fall off a cliff and rip a huge hole in the seat of my pants?  Are there reasonable options (kibbutzim, small villages) for replacing some basics that wouldn't require catching a bus back to a bigger town and losing a day?

The real emergency number to contact in case you fall off a cliff and it's not just your pants only is: 100 or 02-6222211. For your pants and other basics there are some basic supplies in many places particularly in small villages where the food store is more like small supermarket.  And I'd recommend not to fall off a cliff  where your cell phone doesn't work...

 
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